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Question #: 10082

Question: Is there any negative to using the 110 volt VFD compared to the 220 volt VFD?

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The 2.2kW spindle will have the same amount of torque and strength using either the 110V or the 220V inverter. Nothing will significantly change in either application since the 110V inverter has a small step up transformer which will increase the voltage from 110V to 220V to run the spindle efficiently.

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I'd like confirmation on this -- isn't there a cost in efficiency to having the 110v step up to 220v?

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Thank you so very much for explaining this!!! I truly appreciate your help! Tricia

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Thank you so very much for explaining this!!! I truly appreciate your help! Tricia

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Thank you so very much for explaining this!!! I truly appreciate your help! Tricia

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Thank you so very much for explaining this!!! I truly appreciate your help! Tricia

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Thank you so very much for explaining this!!! I truly appreciate your help! Tricia

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  • Do you know of any technical support for the 220 Volt VFD you sell? I can't find any help on it.

    If you need technical support for the 220V VFD, you can ask the specific question on the customer service section of the website. Link below:
    https://buildyourcnc.com/CustomerService.aspx

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    Do you know of any technical support for the 220 Volt VFD you sell? I can't find any help on it.

  • Are there any other manuals for the VFD that comes with the 2.2kw spindle?

    We have manuals for the VFD rather than the spindles. Can you specify what issue you may be having so we can help you better?

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    I am having trouble wiring the VFD. (From the wall outlet to the VFD) I think the manual or setup guide on your website is wrong. The two diagrams show two different sets of terminals on the page.

    Also, do you have a video or other documentation on programming the VFD? Your videos and documentation looks like it only covers the 1.2kw version. Are the two different spindles from different manufacturers?

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    Are there any other manuals for the VFD that comes with the 2.2kw spindle?

  • How to display RPM instead of frequency on the VFD? I have the 2.2kv 110 volt spindle and inverter.

    There is a button on the front of the VFD that will cycle through RPM, Freq, and a few other readings. If there is a >> button on your VFD, that will work. If there is a mode button on your VFD, that should works as well.

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    There is a >> disc button but it does not cycle through the display modes.

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    Is there a parameter setting to make this button work to cycle thru the display modes?

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    setting the starting rpm

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    the vfd will not start the motor

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    Any progress on this? I have the same issue.

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    What model is your VFD?

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    Mine is a YL620-G-5.5Kw

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    That model will not be able to show RPM. You will be able to show the frequency, which can be used to determine the RPM. RPM equals the Frequency x 60.

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    There is an Icon for RPM at the top of the display I cannot cycle through the different options to see the RPM

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    At the top of my control panel is has 6 different lights which indicate what your seeing. in order from left to right they are COM, ALM, DISP, RUN, Hz, RPM I have seen the ALM light up on initial set up but that was fixes with a parameter change. The run light shows up when i turn the spindle on and and it is running. I am however not able to get any of the other lights to show or to get the RPMs to display

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    If you do see an RPM light on the display, that panel sticker may be a sticker used for many types of VFDs and the RPM is not used. There is parameter: P00.24 which allows you to pick what to display. The choices a
    re:
    0: Display current target frequency. This will display your knobs, potentiometer, setting, not the actual spindle frequency.
    1: Display electric machinery run frequency. This will display the actual frequency that the VFD is currently sending to the spindle.
    2: Display electric machinery run current: this will display the current the spindle is currently drawing.
    3: Display input AC voltage. Self explanatory.
    4: Display mother line voltage. This will display the actual voltage at the input.
    5: Display output voltage. This will display the voltage at the UVW terminals for the spindle.
    6: Display speed paragraph number SPx. I believe this displays which frequency is being selected (P07.00 to P07.07, or 1 to 8 respectively).
    7: Display inverter temperature. This is the temp of the VFD, self explanatory.
    8: Display input signal X1-X3/output signal. This simply shows the inputs/outputs associated with the external terminals.
    9: Display user variable. This one I have not delved into, so it may be something to look into.
    10: Display user count value. Same, this one could be useful.
    11: Display temporary debugging variable. Haven't tried this one, so I can't inform of any useful information but it won't pertain to this subject anyway.
    12: Display automatic multisegment run step and time. I haven't delved into this one either, but it won't show RPM.

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    How to display RPM instead of frequency on the VFD? I have the 2.2kv 110 volt spindle and inverter.

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    What 3d printer do you have?

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    whiteant

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  • How can i tell if my laser supply is 110 or 230 VAC? there is no marking of any kind

    Only the 110v Version will have any indication of voltage on it. On the side of the power supply unit that has the black terminal strip and red wire coming out of it, there will be a silver sticker on the white side of the transformer that will state 110v, if it is 110v. If there is no sticker, then it should be 220v.

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  • [77] I have a 110 volt 2.2kw water cooled spindle. Can I run it with a 220 volt VFD?

    I have not tried connecting a 110V spindle to a 220V VFD; however, the parameters in a 220V VFD do allow changes to the values for the spindle motor. If you do plan on connecting the 110V spindle to a 220V VFD, damages can occur, so I would not recommend it.

    With that said, here is the output of an LLM:
    Using a 220-volt VFD (Variable Frequency Drive) to run a 110-volt spindle is technically possible, but it requires careful setup to avoid damaging the spindle. Here's what you need to consider:

    Check the VFD Specifications: Ensure that the VFD can be set up to output the correct voltage for your spindle. Many VFDs are capable of outputting variable voltages and can be configured via their programming settings to match the voltage requirements of the spindle.

    Adjust the Output Voltage: You'll need to configure the VFD to output 110 volts to match your spindle. This is crucial because supplying 220 volts to a 110-volt spindle would likely damage it permanently. Check the VFD's manual for instructions on how to adjust the output voltage settings.

    Set the Current Correctly: Besides voltage, make sure the output current does not exceed what your spindle can handle. The VFD should be configured to supply the current at the rating appropriate for the spindle’s power and voltage requirements.

    Consult the Manuals: Always refer to the manuals of both the spindle and the VFD. These documents can provide specific guidance on compatibility and settings.

    Consider Professional Installation: If you are not familiar with electrical systems or if the manuals do not provide clear guidance, it may be wise to hire a professional. This helps ensure that the setup is done safely and correctly.

    By taking these steps, you can safely use a 220-volt VFD with your 110-volt spindle, ensuring it operates efficiently without risk of damage. Just be meticulous with the settings and when in doubt, consult with or hire a professional.

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    [77] I have a 110 volt 2.2kw water cooled spindle. Can I run it with a 220 volt VFD?

  • IS THERE A WAY TO GET RID OF THE PARALLEL CABLE AND SOMEHOW USE USB ?

    If you select the Settings Page and select or tick Auto Limit Override - this will allow you to back off the switch.

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    limit and home switch

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    IS THERE A WAY TO GET RID OF THE PARALLEL CABLE AND SOMEHOW USE USB ?

  • how to conect the VFD spindle using modbus

    It is possible to connect and configure the spindle VFD to the mach3 via an RS485 communication and protocol.

    The first thing you will need is the dynamic link library to pair with mach3 called the Huanyang VFD Mach3 PlugIn. You can find this file at the mach3 support forum here: http://www.machsupport.com/forum/index.php/topic,14182.0.html

    You will also need to download the Microsoft .net 3.5 framework and install it: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=21

    Follow the pdf that comes with the library file, but here is a synopsis of what you need to do (I also added a lot more information that may be useful during this process as the manual does not cover the main connections that need to be done):

    You will need to program your VFD so that it knows how to communicate with mach3 and the computer (go into the programming mode of the VFD and change these parameters):
    - PD001 - value 2 - Enables with communication aspect of the VFD
    - PD002 - value 2 - Enables frequency control from the communcations port
    - PD163 - value 1 - VFD address
    - PD164 - value 1 - Baud rate of 9600 (speed of the communication)
    - PD165 - value 3 - 8N1 RTU - 8 bits (that's the size of the word that gets communicated), N (No parity or no error checking) and 1 (1 stop bit)

    Copy the dll file to the PlugIns folder of mach3.

    Connect the RX and TX lines to your computer. There are a couple ways you can do this, but the recommended way would be to use an FTDI USB device which converts a USB to a serial com port. The device will have Rx and Tx connectors to connect to the VFD terminals with the same labels. This method is recommended since serial ports are not as common in computers these days.

    Next, you will need to configure mach3 to use the plugin library. Start mach3 and click on Menu -> config ->Config Plugins. Enable the new plugin by clicking on the red cross on the left column next to the plug in. Restart mach3 after doing this.

    No you need to configure mach3 to use the HuanyangVFD plugin. Go to the ports & pins configuration and select the spindle setup tab. Make sure that the Disable Spindle Relays checkbox is unchecked. We don't want mach3 to output a signal for a relay since the spindle will start up and turn off within the VFD and not from an external relay.

    Next, go to the HuanyangVFD settings by clicking on Menu -> plugin control -> HuanyangVFD. Set the parameters to the same settings you put into the VFD programming. The com port will be shown as new hardward when you plug in the USB FTDI device. A little bubble will be displayed at the bottom right where it will notify you that a new device is being installed (be patient while windows assigns a com port). Alternatively, you can use the windows device manager to see which port was set for the new USB FTDI device). You may need to restart mach3 several times until you get the correct information displayed in the PD001 and PD002 fields. When the com port is correct and the other parameters, like baud and VFD address is the same as you entered in the programming, then the PD001 and PD002 will show the number 2, otherwise, a 99 will appear which means that communication was not successful.

    You can now control the on/off and RPM of the spindle using the RS485 communication between mach3 and the VFD.

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    Will this work with the brand called "best "vfd as well.

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    Where Can i find vfd plug-in for yl-620a for mach3 MODBUS?

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    how to conect the VFD spindle using modbus

  • how to conect the VFD spindle using modbus

    It is possible to connect and configure the spindle VFD to the mach3 via an RS485 communication and protocol.

    The first thing you will need is the dynamic link library to pair with mach3 called the Huanyang VFD Mach3 PlugIn. You can find this file at the mach3 support forum here: http://www.machsupport.com/forum/index.php/topic,14182.0.html

    You will also need to download the Microsoft .net 3.5 framework and install it: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=21

    Follow the pdf that comes with the library file, but here is a synopsis of what you need to do (I also added a lot more information that may be useful during this process as the manual does not cover the main connections that need to be done):

    You will need to program your VFD so that it knows how to communicate with mach3 and the computer (go into the programming mode of the VFD and change these parameters):
    - PD001 - value 2 - Enables with communication aspect of the VFD
    - PD002 - value 2 - Enables frequency control from the communcations port
    - PD163 - value 1 - VFD address
    - PD164 - value 1 - Baud rate of 9600 (speed of the communication)
    - PD165 - value 3 - 8N1 RTU - 8 bits (that's the size of the word that gets communicated), N (No parity or no error checking) and 1 (1 stop bit)

    Copy the dll file to the PlugIns folder of mach3.

    Connect the RX and TX lines to your computer. There are a couple ways you can do this, but the recommended way would be to use an FTDI USB device which converts a USB to a serial com port. The device will have Rx and Tx connectors to connect to the VFD terminals with the same labels. This method is recommended since serial ports are not as common in computers these days.

    Next, you will need to configure mach3 to use the plugin library. Start mach3 and click on Menu -> config ->Config Plugins. Enable the new plugin by clicking on the red cross on the left column next to the plug in. Restart mach3 after doing this.

    No you need to configure mach3 to use the HuanyangVFD plugin. Go to the ports & pins configuration and select the spindle setup tab. Make sure that the Disable Spindle Relays checkbox is unchecked. We don't want mach3 to output a signal for a relay since the spindle will start up and turn off within the VFD and not from an external relay.

    Next, go to the HuanyangVFD settings by clicking on Menu -> plugin control -> HuanyangVFD. Set the parameters to the same settings you put into the VFD programming. The com port will be shown as new hardward when you plug in the USB FTDI device. A little bubble will be displayed at the bottom right where it will notify you that a new device is being installed (be patient while windows assigns a com port). Alternatively, you can use the windows device manager to see which port was set for the new USB FTDI device). You may need to restart mach3 several times until you get the correct information displayed in the PD001 and PD002 fields. When the com port is correct and the other parameters, like baud and VFD address is the same as you entered in the programming, then the PD001 and PD002 will show the number 2, otherwise, a 99 will appear which means that communication was not successful.

    You can now control the on/off and RPM of the spindle using the RS485 communication between mach3 and the VFD.

    Additional Information:
    Will this work with the brand called "best "vfd as well.

    Additional Information:
    Where Can i find vfd plug-in for yl-620a for mach3 MODBUS?

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    how to conect the VFD spindle using modbus

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    Yes, you can use a touch probe with our machines as it is really independent of the machine structure, mechanical components and motion electronics, for the most part. We don't currently sell touch probes, however, but standard touch probes for CNC machines will work fine.

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  • Is there a way to use Mach4 to control my VFD?

    The best way to determine how to control your VFD using Mach4 is to read the MAch4 manual found here:
    http://www.machsupport.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Mach4%20Installation%20Manual.pdf

    You will find that there a a few ways to control the spindle/VFD on your CNC machine or CNC Router.
    - The first and easiest is to have your VFD's power controlled by a relay. This will allow your spindle to have on/off control through Mach4 with an output pin.
    - The second is to have a controller output a DAC voltage between 0-10 volts to control speed on the VFD/Spindle. There is a termial on the VFD to receive this signal line. The controller will also have an output that outputs a high or low and that can control the on/off on the VFD.
    - The third, and more difficult of the three methods is to use a USB to Serial adapter (USB to USART or RS-485). The Computer plugs into the adapter using a USB cable and the adapter uses the RX/TX to connect to the VFD's terminals for communication. This will provide a great amount of control. Mach4 will need a plug-in to make this option work.

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    If you are located near Houston, Texas area you can stop by our shop. If you are not near us, you can check in our forums, and see if you can find someone in your area that has one of our machines, and would be willing to let you come see it in action.

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    Gary H. Zeman, ScD, CHP

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  • The 110 volt inverter is different

    There is another image on the spindle page here that shows another type of wiring using the R, T and E terminals for power. The image is one of the clickable main images on that page:

    https://www.buildyourcnc.com/item/spindle-inverter-2!2kw-spindle-novfd

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    Here is a link to the image directly:

    https://www.buildyourcnc.com/images/SpindleWiring-800.JPG

    And here is the link to the alternate diagram:

    https://www.buildyourcnc.com/images/NewSpindleDiagram-800.JPG

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    The 110 volt inverter is different

  • What wire do I need to power the spindle (ie, from the 220 outlet to the spindle). Would a dryer cable work? Is there specific amperage the wire needs?

    The wire that is connected to the spindle can be a simple extension cord, that you find at a local hardware store. However there is a missing wire that is required(ground) which will have to be the same amperage of the extension cord.

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    What wire do I need to power the spindle (ie, from the 220 outlet to the spindle). Would a dryer cable work? Is there specific amperage the wire needs?

  • [72] will this software include any drivers needed to make the computer talk to the VFD?

    Yes, this controller can control the spindle on and off, and control the spindle's RPM. Here are two videos that show how to do this:


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    [72] will this software include any drivers needed to make the computer talk to the VFD?

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    Roller chain in general is adjustable by using "master links", which are links which have horseshoe clip holding the pin and thus allow connections to be made or broken. The #25 is a designation of the type of roller chain. ANSI codes designate that the first digit(s) specify the pitch in eights of an inch, and the last digit is 0 for standard chain, 1 for lightweight chain, and 5 for bushed chain with no rollers. So #25 is 2/8 = 1/4 inch pitch bushed chain with no rollers.

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  • how do you wire the 2.2kw spindle and vfd for 110 single phase

    You can find the wiring diagram for the 2.2kW spindle and, follow through instructions here.
    https://www.buildyourcnc.com/item/spindle-inverter-2!2kw-spindle-novfd#prettyPhoto/8/

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    wiring diagram at spindle top


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    Can you please provide settings for a 110v 2.2 spindle vfd

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    Can you please provide settings for a 110v 2.2 spindle vfd

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