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Question: Do you have a more detailed diagram of the rotary and 15A limit switches on the vlxl?

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Are you trying to determine how to wire the switches or where to place them on the Vertical Laser XL? Let me know and I will provide some pictures or video on how to do this.

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Kind of both. Have somewhat of an idea as to how to wire them but you included rotary and other limit switches. Not sure which ones to put where. Never worked with these before.

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  • How do I wire the limit switches on the VLXL? Also, where do I place them? You included 2 rotary and two other limit switches.

    You can actually select many places for the switches, depending on where you think your zero will be. I will take pictures of where we positioned our switches. We set the positions so the zero is at the bottom left corner of the machine.

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    I will take pictures tomorrow.

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    Thank you. Just want to finish before the holiday.

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    Not a problem at all and my apologies for not having that information. I have been meaning to put up a video on the limit switch connection as it is somewhat difficult to explain the process in words and diagrams.

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    Any update?

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    I plan on driving to the office later today and take pictures.

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    Thank you. I've just done almost everything else. Just waiting for the grade 3 grease in the mail. Also, where do you suggest connecting the cable carriers? I ran everything through the top but the carrier is getting kind of full. Because of that, it is pushing the belt out when the gantry moves.

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    I will take pictures of those connections as well.

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    Much appreciated.

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    It’s my pleasure.

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    I’m almost to the office. I’ve been shuttling my kids around today. Sorry for the wait.

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    I’m adding the images to the end of the VLXL instructions.

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    The limit switch connections use the NO (Normally Open) terminals. That means that the switch, when not engaged, is normally open (no connection between the com and the NO terminal). When the switch is engaged, then the connection is closed and the NO and COM terminal become connected, making a circuit.

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    Did you bend the arm on the x switch? Or can you mount it flush with enough give to trigger? Same on both sides?


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    It does look like it is bent in the picture. No, you do not need to bend the arm of the rotary switch.

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    We only have the rotary switch on one side.

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    How do I wire the limit switches on the VLXL? Also, where do I place them? You included 2 rotary and two other limit switches.

  • Do you guys have any videos showing how to connect limit switches to a redleaf? If not, could you please make one? I looked at the diagrams on the limit switch page but I don't understand them.

    Connecting the limit switches on the redLeaf use the input pins on the parallel breakout board. Here is a link to the wiring diagram for that parallel breakout board.

    https://buildyourcnc.com/item/electronicsAndMotors-parallel-breakout-relay#prettyPhoto/2/

    The connection is simple. Just create a circuit from ground to the pin. When the pin is engaged, the circuit is closed (using normally open on the switch). Use mach3's autoset to automatically set the pin for the limit or home setting.

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    Do you guys have any videos showing how to connect limit switches to a redleaf? If not, could you please make one? I looked at the diagrams on the limit switch page but I don't understand them.

  • Do you have a wiring diagram for a 3 axis system using your compotents. It would be nice if it showed the estop, limit switches,relays...

    Depending on the Breakout board that was purchased with your electronics combo, either USB or Parallel:
    USB: https://buildyourcnc.com/item/electronicsAndMotors-electronic-component-USB-Controller-Breakout#prettyPhoto/2/
    Parallel: https://buildyourcnc.com/item/electronicsAndMotors-parallel-breakout-relay#prettyPhoto/2/

    These will have the inputs labeled on the board itself, for example:
    USB will have the inputs for all the axis from X, Y, Z, A, limit switches.
    Parallel there will be 4 inputs 10, 11, 12, 13, 16(relay). Which can be used as E-stop, Limits (for all axes if wired in a closed loop), and one relay for a spindle control on/off via mach 3 or mach 4 or a specific relay control that you desire.

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    Do you have a wiring diagram for a 3 axis system using your compotents. It would be nice if it showed the estop, limit switches,relays...

  • Do you sell 22 to 24 AWG stranded and shielded for wiring of the limit switches and E_Stop?

    The wire that we sell for the limit switch wiring is here: https://www.buildyourcnc.com/item/3d-printer-component-cnc-electronicsandmotors-cable-wire-3-conductor-22-awg-wrcon-cablewire3conductor22awg

    This is shielded cable to make sure there isn't any external interference with sensitive components and long wires associated with limit switches. This is necessary due to the interference caused by the motors on a CNC router and the milling process.

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    So unshielded is cool. That's what I was curious about. Cheers.

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    Absolutely. It's really the only type of cable I would recommend for connecting limit switches.

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    Do you sell 22 to 24 AWG stranded and shielded for wiring of the limit switches and E_Stop?

  • Do you have data sheets available for the Adjustable Rotary Limit Switch and E-Stop (Emergency Stop) Button - 120v-10A/240v-6A?

    If the products have documents available, they are generally found on the product page itself, somewhere in the description or under the instructions.

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    Do you have data sheets available for the Adjustable Rotary Limit Switch and E-Stop (Emergency Stop) Button - 120v-10A/240v-6A?

  • How can I convert from Xylotex to yours, four axis with limit switches. Have parallel PC and steppers on machine.

    Sure, the USB interface has a place for 4 axes of limit switches.

    Each axis can have two limit switches: one for the ++ (positive) end and one for the -- (negative) end. The positive end would be the limit switch at the end of the machine that, say the machine has a 4'x8' area, reaches a bit after the 8 foot mark. The negative end would be the limit switch behind the 0 foot location behind the origin. If the origin is in the middle, the negative would be at a little more than the -4 foot end and the positive would be at a bit more than the +4 foot end. Note that you can have more than one switch on each pin where the NC is connected in serial fashion and the NO is connected in parallel fashion (this can be seen on the diagram in the multiple limits switch section). The software configurations for the limits switches are under File -> Settings -> Limit.

    A typical limit switch has three connections on it. These connections consist of COM (common), NC (normally closed) and NO (normally open). The COM would generally go to GND and the NC or the NO would go to the pin. If the NC is used, then the the switch is constantly connected until the switch is pushed (engaged) then the connection from the pin to gnd is broken (open). Use the settings in software to set whether in NC or NO configuration.

    Let me know if this information was helpful (or not) by adding information to this question. Thanks.

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    Thank you very much for this helpful information. I'm still a little fuzzy on how the 6 limit switches physically connect to each other and to the USB breakout board. You've stated one switch (home) goes to positive and another switch (limit) goes to negative. Are all the GND prongs from all 6 switches connected to each other and going to GND on the breakout board, or no? And the NC prongs, how exactly are they connected to each other? And to the board? There has to be a diagram somewhere shows this visually, no? I don't know how to wire the switches in series or in parallel. I have already physically installed all the switches on the machine and ran the wires to where the board is. Now I just need to know where to plug these wires into the board. Also, taking into consideration that I'm using the Planet CNC software, the only settings I have pertaining to limit switches is "Enable/Disable" for each axis, and the actual limit for each axis. Nothing about NC or NO. Is that only in Mach3?
    Thank you.

    buildyourcnc response:
    On the USB interface, the COM on the switch connects to GND and the NC or NO connects to the input pin (i.e. x++, y--, etc.)

    Limit switch configuration is rather difficult to understand, especially with series and parallel. You can think of series as a single wire going from GND to the axis letter input terminal (i.e. X++ or X--). If the wire is broken, then the circuit is open (or the switch is engaged in a normally closed scenario). Normally closed is like an actual wire, and when engaged, the switch "opens" (breaks the wire). This is why we recommend in some systems that you can put many switches in series on a single pin. When one of the switches is engaged (breaking the connection) then the entire circuit of switches is broken and the machine stops.

    In a parallel scenario, the state of the circuit is always broken until the one of the switches is engaged and the circuit is then closed or connected. The topology looks like a ladder. All the switches connect to both sides of the ladder and the switches are like the runs of the ladder (the horizontal bars that the feet are placed while climbing). Imagine all of the switches broken in this scenario (normally open). It would be like the ladder could be split in two, but if one of the ladder runs (switches) is closed by engaging it, then that run would connect both sides of the ladder and the two sides of the ladder would have a connection.

    There is a diagram on the USB page of the various limit switch configurations. If you need more information (visual and/or otherwise), please let us know and we will immediately add that information to benefit everyone.

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    How can I convert from Xylotex to yours, four axis with limit switches. Have parallel PC and steppers on machine.

  • Are there any videos detailing wiring of limit switches and stop button?

    This video may serve helpful on the homing and limit switches:
    https://www.buildyourcnc.com/PrimeronHomingandLimitSwitches.aspx

    I don't go into great detail on the wiring, however. If after you watch that video and you still need a video, please let me know and I will make a video on the wiring of limit switches and the E-stop button.

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    Are there any videos detailing wiring of limit switches and stop button?

  • What power supply do you recommend for the spindle and limit switches if I buy the USB Mach3 breakout board?

    Any of the following power supplies will be fine for powering the Mach3 USB controller:
    https://www.buildyourcnc.com/item/24v

    however, the limit switches do not need high current, so the following power supply is sufficient for the task of connecting limit switches:
    https://www.buildyourcnc.com/item/electronicsAndMotors-power-supply-24v-1a-dc

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    What power supply do you recommend for the spindle and limit switches if I buy the USB Mach3 breakout board?

  • Can you tell me what gauge wire is needed for limits switches and the spindle?

    The hookup wires you will need is 22 to 24 AWG stranded and shielded for the wiring of the limit switches and E_Stop. Our kit customers select various places for these switches, so we don't supply the wiring. If you don't use shielded cable, you will need to change the debounce setting in Mach3 (if that is the control program you are using).

    We typically use 14 AWG stranded wire for the VFD to Spindle (U, V, W) connections.

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    Can you tell me what gauge wire is needed for limits switches and the spindle?

  • Do you have a wiring diagram for your breakout board and the SuperPID?

    It is not necessary for a wiring diagram for the breakout board to the SuperPID controller since you are only going to connect two wires from the breakout board output terminals of your choosing to the SuperPID controller. The only thing remaining is to configure Mach3 so that the spindle control section serves as the SuperPID controller.

    To setup this configuration in Mach3, go to your ports and pins dialog box (config menu -> ports and pins). Click on the spindle setup tab. In the Motor Control Section of the dialog, check the box for Use Spindle Motor Output and check the box for PWM control. Change the PWM Base Frequency to 50Hz.

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    Do you have a wiring diagram for your breakout board and the SuperPID?

  • Where are the limit switch connections made when the switches are in series, and NC??

    One end of the limit switch circuit will be connected to the pin and NC, and the other end will be connected to COM and GND.

    For example: (the "-" is wire.)

    [Breakout board input pin] ---- ([NC on switch] [com on switch]) ---- [NC on switch] [com on switch] ---- [back to GND on the breakout board]

    An explanation of the limit switch connections is located on the brakout board datasheet: https://www.buildyourcnc.com/item/electronicsAndMotors-parallel-breakout-relay (instruction step # 1.

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    Where are the limit switch connections made when the switches are in series, and NC??

  • I have nearly completed the CNC machine from the book, but I am using it with a USB breakout board, and have no idea how to wire the 6 limit switches to the board. I'm having difficulty following the diagram on the USB breakout board screen. Can someone please help me?

    Sure, the USB interface has a place for 4 axes of limit switches.

    Each axis can have two limit switches: one for the ++ (positive) end and one for the -- (negative) end. The positive end would be the limit switch at the end of the machine that, say the machine has a 4'x8' area, reaches a bit after the 8 foot mark. The negative end would be the limit switch behind the 0 foot location behind the origin. If the origin is in the middle, the negative would be at a little more than the -4 foot end and the positive would be at a bit more than the +4 foot end. Note that you can have more than one switch on each pin where the NC is connected in serial fashion and the NO is connected in parallel fashion (this can be seen on the diagram in the multiple limits switch section). The software configurations for the limits switches are under File -> Settings -> Limit.

    A typical limit switch has three connections on it. These connections consist of COM (common), NC (normally closed) and NO (normally open). The COM would generally go to GND and the NC or the NO would go to the pin. If the NC is used, then the the switch is constantly connected until the switch is pushed (engaged) then the connection from the pin to gnd is broken (open). Use the settings in software to set whether in NC or NO configuration.

    Let me know if this information was helpful (or not) by adding information to this question. Thanks.

    User response:
    Thank you very much for this helpful information. I'm still a little fuzzy on how the 6 limit switches physically connect to each other and to the USB breakout board. You've stated one switch (home) goes to positive and another switch (limit) goes to negative. Are all the GND prongs from all 6 switches connected to each other and going to GND on the breakout board, or no? And the NC prongs, how exactly are they connected to each other? And to the board? There has to be a diagram somewhere shows this visually, no? I don't know how to wire the switches in series or in parallel. I have already physically installed all the switches on the machine and ran the wires to where the board is. Now I just need to know where to plug these wires into the board. Also, taking into consideration that I'm using the Planet CNC software, the only settings I have pertaining to limit switches is "Enable/Disable" for each axis, and the actual limit for each axis. Nothing about NC or NO. Is that only in Mach3?
    Thank you.

    buildyourcnc response:
    On the USB interface, the COM on the switch connects to GND and the NC or NO connects to the input pin (i.e. x++, y--, etc.)

    Limit switch configuration is rather difficult to understand, especially with series and parallel. You can think of series as a single wire going from GND to the axis letter input terminal (i.e. X++ or X--). If the wire is broken, then the circuit is open (or the switch is engaged in a normally closed scenario). Normally closed is like an actual wire, and when engaged, the switch "opens" (breaks the wire). This is why we recommend in some systems that you can put many switches in series on a single pin. When one of the switches is engaged (breaking the connection) then the entire circuit of switches is broken and the machine stops.

    In a parallel scenario, the state of the circuit is always broken until the one of the switches is engaged and the circuit is then closed or connected. The topology looks like a ladder. All the switches connect to both sides of the ladder and the switches are like the runs of the ladder (the horizontal bars that the feet are placed while climbing). Imagine all of the switches broken in this scenario (normally open). It would be like the ladder could be split in two, but if one of the ladder runs (switches) is closed by engaging it, then that run would connect both sides of the ladder and the two sides of the ladder would have a connection.

    There is a diagram on the USB page of the various limit switch configurations. If you need more information (visual and/or otherwise), please let us know and we will immediately add that information to benefit everyone.

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    I have nearly completed the CNC machine from the book, but I am using it with a USB breakout board, and have no idea how to wire the 6 limit switches to the board. I'm having difficulty following the diagram on the USB breakout board screen. Can someone please help me?

  • I have a breakout board and it appears that the pin 12 connection has failed: when i move my limit switches to pin 11 they work; they don't work on pin 12. Do i need a new breakout board?

    For safety's sake I would recommend a new board because they are inexpensive compared to the electronics that they support. Alternatively, it's possible that the one dead pin is a simple fix, such as a bad connection or solder joint; if you feel comfortable making those repairs then it could be worthwhile to check. Finally, if you are not using all the input pins, you could continue to operate the limit switch on pin 11 and hope for the best.

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    I have a breakout board and it appears that the pin 12 connection has failed: when i move my limit switches to pin 11 they work; they don't work on pin 12. Do i need a new breakout board?

  • In the video 'Primer on Homing and the Use of Limit Switches' Patrick refers to pin number "13". Is this in fact pin "i3"?

    The parallel breakout board uses pins 10 to 13 relating specifically to the pin numbers on the parallel port. It is in fact 13 and not i3.

    The mach3 USB board does use the I1-I4 using the I to represent the word "input"; hence I3 (i3).

    Thanks for the question and wanting clarification.

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    In the video 'Primer on Homing and the Use of Limit Switches' Patrick refers to pin number "13". Is this in fact pin "i3"?

  • Please provide detailed instructions on how to connect limit switches to CNC USB BOARD. I can not find instructions anywhere. I am new to cnc world and really need help. Thanks

    The USB Interface page: https://buildyourcnc.com/item/electronicsAndMotors-electronic-component-USB-Controller-Breakout

    On this page, there is a datasheet that explains the connection schemes for the limit switches on step 1 of the instructions. The datasheet explains single and multiple switch configurations and parallel/serial connections schemes for the NO/NC (Normally Open/Normally Closed states).

    If there is further information you need, please reply on this FAQ.

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    Please provide detailed instructions on how to connect limit switches to CNC USB BOARD. I can not find instructions anywhere. I am new to cnc world and really need help. Thanks

  • Were are the mounting locattions of the 6 Limit switches on the Blackfoot 4.3

    Here are the recommended locations for limit switches for our CNC machine kits.

    The x-axis limit switches should be located on a single gantry. This makes the wiring of the limit switches close in proximity and more manageable.
    https://www.buildyourcnc.com/images/IMG_6367-800.JPG

    The y-axis limit switches should be located at each end of the gantry. This keeps the switches stationary and impose minimal movement of the wire for better wire management.

    One end of he gantry:
    https://www.buildyourcnc.com/images/IMG_6361-800.JPG

    Other end of the gantry:
    https://www.buildyourcnc.com/images/IMG_6360-800.JPG

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    Were are the mounting locattions of the 6 Limit switches on the Blackfoot 4.3

  • have a parallel BOB, limit switches get triggered constantly when power is plugged in.

    How do you have the limit switches wired?

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    have a parallel BOB, limit switches get triggered constantly when power is plugged in.

  • DO NEED LIMIT SWITCHES, IF SO WHAT IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION?

    Limit switches are not really needed for this level of a machine, but if you do want to use them, then you will need to connect them with shielded cable and ground the shield at both ends and any other non-used wire in the cable. Limit switches are very susceptible to the motor interference. You will also need to adjust the debounce in the software you will use.

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    DO NEED LIMIT SWITCHES, IF SO WHAT IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION?

  • May i have more detailed Information aboute the 4 Axis Electronics Combo? We're using EMC2 and i wanna check compatibility first before I'll buy some. https://www.buildyourcnc.com/Item/electronicsAndMotors-4axis-425-elcombo

    The electronics packages come with standard stepping motor drivers, stepping motors, power supply (36v and 8.8amps), and a breakout board (USB or parallel, depending on the option you select). The USB will not work with linuxcnc, but the parallel breakout board works fine with linuxcnc. All of our drivers work well with the linuxcnc software. We use this software with some of our machines and we also sell the CNC electronics / computer system (redLeaf and redSprout) with linuxcnc installed and tested (if the customer selects linux over windows or requests a dual boot system).

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    May i have more detailed Information aboute the 4 Axis Electronics Combo? We're using EMC2 and i wanna check compatibility first before I'll buy some. https://www.buildyourcnc.com/Item/electronicsAndMotors-4axis-425-elcombo